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these candidates would handle foreign policy? >> you look at the record of the last four years and say is iran closer to a bomb? yes. is the middle east in tumult? yes. is al qaeda on the run, on its heels? no. >> you said that first we shouldn't not have a time line in afghanistan, then you said we should. now you say maybe or it depends. gwen: and what do we know about the ground game it will take for either one to win in covering the campaign's closing weeks, movie -- molly ball of 9 -- covering the campaign's closing weeks, molly ball of "the atlantic," gloria borger of cnn, susan davis of "u.s.a. today"," and james kitfield of "national journal." >> award-winning reporting and analysis, covering history as it happens. live from our nation's capital, this is "washington week" with gwen ifill. produced in associated with "national journal." corporate funding for "washington week" be provided by -- ♪ >> wherever our trail blazers -- trains divorce, the economy comes to live. norfolk southern. one line, infinity possibilities the >> we know why we're here. to chart a greener path in the air
's not on the top of anyone's mind. even though it was the subject of the final foreign policy debate, which was this week though it feels like it was months ago. at the end it was clear both had a strategy goinging in and it had very little to do with talking about the u.s. foreign policy. >> right. there was the expected clash of world views. romney has been bush -- pushing the idea of american exceptionalism, the very muscular view of foreign policy, pushing, and right down the line , but that romney didn't show up for the debate. he pulled himself very close to president obama's positions on pulling the troops out of afghanistan in 2014, on not introducing military forces into the crisis in syria, on crippling sanctions in iran and it was really stunning. gwen: did the specifics matter or was this about both of them trying to look like the commander fdemeef >> it was a good strategy on romney's part, iroda tulyaganovaly. the public suffered from not having two candidates with two very different inextincts -- instincts on foreign policy, but this is where he has stumbled. whenever he has
. for the first time, foreign policy is now part of this discussion that we're having. i've been traveling all over. this tragedy turned into a deboch expel massive cover-up or massive incompetence in libya is having an effect on the voter because of their view of the commander in chief. and it is now the worst cover-up or incompetence that i have ever observed in my life. >> schieffer: let me get to that in a second. let me just ask you what you said there. are you saying the president, should he come off the campaign trial now and devote himself to directing storm-relief efforts and that sort of thing? >> i'm sure he will. at least for a period of time i'm sure that the president will. we all remember new orleans. >> schieffer: what about-- what about what you just said about libya? are you saying now that this was a deliberate cover-up coming out of the libya, that in fact this was not what the administration said it was, but something else entirely, and that, i guess, if it was a cover-up, are you saying they did it for political reasons? >> i don't know if it's either cover-up or gross--
to happen. >> that is the tea party's richard mourdock, who defeated a veteran foreign policy expert richard lugar are in the primary. the romney campaign quickly responded that the governor disagree with th -- agrees with those comments. polls tell us that the president has been losing ground to romney among women. why is that? >> some of it is rebalancing, some of it is the effect of the first debate. i think that is this still falls along does have an effect. not because mr. mourdock said anything -- he was inartful. it was obvious what he was thinking. on the other hand, what he was thinking clearly is that rate is much less important than preserving a life in a lot of women, saying that rape is not that important is a very unfortunate thing, and romney has disagreed with them, but he has not taken back the ad he is running for mourdock. >> every time he looked on the cable news shows now, you see somebody from planned parenthood or another group that is pro abortion, so forth. the obama people are running with this trade will have -- the of what people are running with this. will it hav
the foreign policy do pate between a calm, reasoned mitt romney and ?eering, condescending barack obama? a fair and balanced discussion coming up. and a new poll shows european prefer obama to romney, something that is not the tiniest shocking. greg? >> nice, andy. >> i don't know what that means. >> what, thanks, andy? >> yes. >> you know what, maybe you don't deserve the thanks. >> maybe i just never heard it before from you, greg. >> let's welcome our guest, you jerk. well, she is so british she sneezes earl graty. it is quite messy. i am here with author and political commentator imogeth lloyd webber. that's three names. her latest is called "the twitter diaries" and if hilarity was a seafood restaurant he would have crabs. you get a new job every week. it is michael money -- moynihan. >> i keep getting fired. >> sitting next to me is the brother of gavin mcguiness, miles mcguiness. she a crusader for honesty and justice in a country that knows neither. he is a film maker and poet currently between jobs. >> a block. >> the lede. that's the first story. >> did obama fibia? in the las
. >> monday night, third and final presidential debate was on foreign policy. and the most sensitive and dangerous foreign policy issue, which is the bomb. >> as long as i'm president of the united states iran will not get a nuclear weapon. >> a nuclear iran number clear capable iran is unacceptable to americ israel. and if israel is attacked, we have their back. >> if israel is attacked, america will stand with israel. >>> president obama and governor romney were largely in agreement on a range of foreign policy concerns. particularly those centering on the middle east. the ouster of former president mubarak of egypt, the 2014 exit date for afghanistan, the killing of terrorists with nutes romney and obama echoed each other. >> question. is bipartisanship now back in style at least when it comes to foreign policy in a presidential debate? pat buchanan? >> no it isn't but they are moving toward consensus where the american people are at. they are both pro israel, going to stand beside them. both very hawkish toward iran, although they don't want war in the middle east again. they don
mourdock, who defeated federer in a foreign policy expert richard lugar and i be senatorial -- in the indiana senate for a primary bid the romney campaign said that they did not reflect his views. the women's votes -- obama has been losing some of the women's vote to rney. >> rebalancing, the first debate not that mr. mourdock said anything -- it is obvious what he was thinking. on the other hand, what he was thinking clearly is that rape much less important than preserving a life, and for a lot of women, saying that rape isn't all that important is a very unfortunate thing. romney has disagreed with them, but he has not taken back the ad he's running for mourdock. >> every time you watch the cable this shows now, you see someone from planned parenthood, or another group pro-abortion or so forth. the obama people are running with this ball, colby. will it have legs? >> i think it will have an impact. it calls attention to paul ryan, who shares the same view that there should be no exception for rape, abortion in case of rape or anything else, excepthat ryan's principled posi
to focus its foreign policy effort on issue. former ambassador to iraq chris hill said political gridlock is hurting u.s. foreign policy objectives. and asian policy is a good place to rebuild i partisanship to the discussion is just under two hours. >> thank you all for being here this afternoon, and welcome to georgetown university. we've come together today for a special conversation, a conversation between top diplomats, past and present, each of whom has played a significant role in u.s. asia relations over the past two decades. with representatives from the administrations of george h. w. bush through the current administration of barack obama, our guest speakers today offer their expertise and experience as a look back on the use of service and look forward to the future of u.s.-asia relations. wish to offer my gratitude to georgetown's asian studies program, our school of foreign service, and the korea economic institute who have partnered to bring together some of our countries most respected minds on foreign policy and asia. we are deeply grateful to doctor victor cha a professo
the clown campaign? mitt romney spends the final debate agreeing with much of obama's foreign policy. >> i supported that entirely and feel the president was right. i want to underscore the same president the president made. i felt the same as the president did. >> i think romney's leaning obama. [ laughter ] >> but where on earth is the serious press coverage of their exchanges on libya, on afghanistan, on terrorism? >>> plus, obama's media blitz from brian williams to jay leno to mtv. >> what are you most worried about? malia getting a driver's license, malia going out on a date, or malia being on facebook? >> i worry about facebook right now even just for security reasons. you know, she doesn't have a facebook page. >> are the media giving the president a friendly platform? i'm howard kurtz, and this is "reliable sources." >>> did you know that mitt romney engages in spraytanning before major events? that is what buzz feed is reporting and "mass conjecture" in social media despite a denial from the romney campaign. this is ephemeral stuff that's been coloring the campaign challenge, a c
of ideas as to how to cast foreign policy in response to 9/11, such as invading iraq and people were actually advocating this well before we had the 9/11 terrorist attacks. making regime change in iraq the official policy of federal government actually occurred during the clinton administration when the iraq liberation act was passed in 1998 and signed into law by president clinton and supported by many republicans in congress. it had bipartisan support. vice president gore was a supporter, that is why i am not completely convinced that that is a counterfactual point. we have a lot of interest and people were casting around, trying to find solutions. and i do think the initialization of afghanistan was correct, whether that means we need to be there for 10 years or until afghanistan becomes connecticut, that is another matter entirely. but i think the initial strikes against those were necessary and just. but then to go out and pursue regime change, prior to 9/11, they simply casted in search of a solution to a problem with a little class saw. >> libertarianism was fiscally conservat
united on foreign policy either. but they're closer. my newshour colleague, margaret warner, is in washington and has our report about that. >> thanks maria. as the campaign hurtles toward election day, much of the foreign policy debate has focused on a few, deadly hours on an infamous date. the attack in benghazi on september 11th that killed u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three other americans has led to a raft of sharp questions, accusations and recriminations. >> there were many days that passed before we knew whether we knew if this was a spontaneous demonstration or actually whether it was a terrorist attack. how could we not have known? >> i immediately made sure, number one, we did everything we could to secure those americans who were still in harm's way and most importantly, that we would go after those who killed americans and we would bring them to justice and that's exactly what we are going to do. >> but whether the president wins reelection, or governor romney takes the office, a dizzying array of broader challenges awaits overseas. romney says he'd restore
debate on foreign policy between president obama and mitt romney today at 12:10 eastern here on c-span. >> this is the downsizing of the charts. you are watching it live. one of 10,000 homes they are trying to get done in the next four years. these are houses that are never coming back. >> one-family every 20 minutes moving out. >> moving out of detroit. >> these houses are disappearing from the landscape. >> just recently, 164 firefighters were laid off as part of the downsizing, effort for mayor bing to get fire -- to get finances under control. detroit must have the highest cases of arson in the country. they were rehired. the money came from the department of homeland security. i cannot want to overstate. that is something you want to think about. the department of homeland security needed to step in to keep detroit as safe as it could be. it could be a lot safer. i have wondered making this film, the auto industry bailout. we have seen the bank bailouts. are we heading into an era of bailout the city. is there such thing of killing out the city? >> tonight at 8:00 p.m. on "q
that senator paul had missed distinction from most of the republicans in the senate on the foreign policy issues, but that he seems to think he has the momentum going forward and is kind of playing a longer game when it comes to how these things work. host: i want to ask you about a piece in the morning paper that you wrote, the president's focus on big bird, binders and baionets may backfire. >> i had some interesting conversations with people that conduct these polls. you answer your phone, who are you going to vote for? these are telling me that the tactics that president obama is using, talking about diners, bayonets and big birds, they're rubbing people the wrong way. in part because they want to focus on jobs in the economy, which is this big, darker issue that the country is facing right now. it's worrying people a lot. and so, the idea that he can talk about things like the binders comment, which is really just a play off a comment that mitt romney made during the presidential debate, where he talks about his desire to hire a lot of women. and it's not helping him. i think that's
who say we're seeing president obama's foreign policy unraveling right on our tv screens? >> it was supposed to be one of triumphs of president obama's foreign policy. a libya without moammar khadafy. he had been one of the worst sponsors of terrorism. families of 189 americans murdered on pan am flight 183 knew that well. after the 2003 invasion of iraq he ended his secret nuclear program. >> i for one didn't buy it. i was deeply suspicious that moammar khadafy may be playing us. >> frank gaf ne89 is president of security policy. >> m away away's transformation from rogue even bizarre terrorist sponsor into one of america's most reliable allies is i think going to be seeing by historians as one of more bizarre twists of diplomatic history. >> bret: whatever the case, khadafy was a repressive leader caught by the surprise in the arab spring. world leaders are calling for him to go. >> moammar khadafy, last has lost legitimacy to lead. >> president obama orders the pentagon to provide air support. one anonymous obama staffer describes the strategy as leading from behind, a
this week in the foreign policy debate than all of japan, mexico, or europe? >>> first, my take. the international monetary fund's latest world economic outlook makes for gloomy reading. growth projections have been revised downward almost everywhere, especially in europe and the big emerging markets like china. yet when looking out over the next four years, coincidentally the next presidential term, the imf projects that the united states will be the strongest of the world's rich economies. u.s. growth is forecast to average 3%, much stronger than that was germany or france, at 1.2%, or even canada at 2.3%. increasingly the evidence suggests that the united states has come out of the financial crisis of 2008 in better shape than its peers because of the actions of its government. perhaps the most important cause of america's relative health is the federal reserve. ben bernanke understood the depths of the problem early and responded energetically and creatively. the clearest vindication of his actions has been that the european central bank after charting an opposite course for
and also on foreign policy, how that is playing out. guest: let's -- there is no doubt the president had a pretty substantially on foreign policy in the polls that have been done. that lead has narrowed in the polls a look at just last week on the foreign policy question. i think that the benghazi issue has played a significant role in that decline. i think on benghazi, it is hard to say how that will play out politically. i do think the administration has a lot to answer for, objectively, for how it handled and what the president and vice- president or did not know any time and how they responded. we do not a time to get into the details of that. typically that would not be decisive. i do not think -- is truly on political terms, not to go into the more question the caller raised, and political terms is not likely to be decisive. it is not something helpful to the president'. it will likely not decide the election, but is still in the polls largely about the economy. host: jonathan martin -- a few days ago in politico.com i.p. writes that republicans are genuinely intrigued and the pros
will be ok, whereas we understand you have to grow the private sector. but on foreign policy, you're right, i will not halls agree with the republican nominee and my job will be i hope to keep us out of additional wars, i hope to help, be part of the solution and bring our troops home from afghanistan, but you know, during the republican primary debate, governor romney said he was ready to come home from afghanistan. i know there's some quibbling here and there on timeline, but to tell you the truth, i don't think there's much daylight between governor romney and president obama on the war. the real difference is on the economy. they're night and day on the economy and not that far apart from coming home from afghanistan. i will try to keep us out of war in syria, keep us out of preemptive war around the world and i will fight for these things and hopefully, i'll be able to convince governor romney campaignfully to come to my direction. within the republican senate caucus, you know, there's probably 10 of us now who are reticent to give the president unlimited authority for war. it doesn't so
people david ignatius at "the washington post." foreign policy a magazine shows up in benghazi to find documents in the personal documents of ambassador stevens. the fbi had been there but left the evidence in the rubble. >> it is unthinkable. it is a draft cable we don't know if it was ever sent but it does say we have asked the libyans again and again for more security with a patrol in the front in the back of roving patrol, bomb sniffing drugs, ambassadors coming and we have nothing we requested. that is found on the ground october 26? why are to the media up an arms asking again and again at every opportunity? get a straight story. nobody died with watergate or monica lipinski. the president owes the american people and explanation and they should not hide behind a "robust investigation." lou: the fbi left the documents on the ground amid the rubble. >> despite the fact fable told us the mission on the ground there were 10 training camps and benghazi the administrations and acted as a bit was normal we need to change policy. >> and values that recognize truth and honor? >> they nee
for china policy and what we can do for foreign policy in general. it will validator system, give us the resources we need. and if we do that, not only the energy, but were way ahead of technology the demographic savers. with the best university, r&d, entrepreneurial spirit and the political system. but we've got to get through this immediate polarization. best overall going to be thinking about next tuesday on the path of fiscal cliff, but the trifecta and stimulating sharpish growth, getting on top of our debt problem and investing in the future all at the same time. i think we can do it. if we can, there's no reason to talk about american decline. >> i want students, friends, faculty, we are going to put a mic in the center aisle if you can start thinking of questions, just line up at the night. i don't own how many will take. as your thinking a lot to ask your guests one of the questions about the future, which is many ways every administration is tested, not by the things they plan to do, but the things that happen they didn't expect, the surprises. the question for all of you i
looking for food and the administration is mired in a foreign policy scandal over this terror aeu kwrabg in libya, and the race is dead even according to the "real clear politics" average, and a lot of polls show the race is dead even. this is not the position the president wanted to be in going into this november 6th election. >> nor did he think it would be. this is the worst position since any incumbent since george w. bush and maybe jimmy carter. it's the testament to his ten as a tiana lot of the money he raised and spent that it resulted in a tie. megyn: it never actually ends in a tie. we will get a result and chris stirewalt will know it before any of us knows it. he will be on the fox news decision desk tuesday night and i'll be saying, what do you know, and he'll be saying, i can't talk now. >> there is always time for you, meg. >> shall we tell them what happened back in 2010. brett and i were about to go on the air and we weren't able to call like the biggest -- anyway it wound up going into the prompter, that's how we learned as we read it it came out. >> we like to keep you
" segment. in the final presidential debate, the one on foreign policy, it was interesting it note the countries that got a mention. iran was cited 47 times, of course. israel, 34 times. and china, 32 times. it was also telling, there was only one mention each of europe and africa, and none at all of india. but i was struck by the amount of play one small country got. the one doesn't usually register on washington's foreign policy -- >> mali -- >> mali -- >> with a gdp 1% of mexico. why mali? here's the story briefly. radical islamist groups have taken control of as much as 2/3 of mali's territory, including the historic city of timbuktu. among these groups is al qaeda and the islamic magret, said to have been involved in last month's attack on the consulate in benghazi, libya. together the radical outfits haver to mmted mali. they've destroyed shrines, impose period sahria law and stoned people who come in their wake. now, mali was once considered one of the few stable democracies in africa, and mali's capital would normally have been able to counteract these insurgents. but the g
documents recovered from the benghazi compound by the foreign policy magazine show that in the early morning hours of september 11, the consulate staff believed they were under surveillance. this person was photographing the inside of the u.s. special mission. and furthermore, this person was part of the police unit sent to protect the mission. this is consistent with online post from sean smith, avid gamer before it was overrun with terrorists. smith was killed. "assuming we don't die tonight we saw one of the police guarding the come pound taking pictures." the classified cable sent to hillary clinton noted by headquarters that the situation on the ground was so dire in the long-term the consulate would take the extreme step of moving in with the cia at the annex which also came under attack on 9/11. >> the conditions on the ground were such that literally the back were up against the wall. they had no options left. >> reservations about the libyan security, escalates violence, rise of demolition central to the classified table sent in mid-august, forshadows the commando style attack. >> i
foreign policy crisis. >> on sunday the israeli government ordered total mobilization. on monday, their armed forces penetrated deeply into egypt and to the vicinity of the suez canal, nearly 100 miles away. and on tuesday, the british and french governments delivered a 12-hour ultimatum to israel and egypt, now followed up by armed attack against egypt. the united states was not consulted in any way about any phase of these actions. nor were we informed of them in advance. >> president eisenhower sounding kind of mad, right? the u.s. had not been informed about the attack ahead of time. because ike had made clear to our allies, to england specifically, that he didn't want another big multi-country conflict in the world. he'd worked with the u.n. to keep that attack from happening. he had made his intentions clear and then england and france just went behind his back and did it anyway and they did it a week before he was facing re-election. >> president dwight d. eisenhower is re-elected to the highest office in the land as world peace faces the greatest crisis since the second w
and republican presidential hopeful mitt romney debated issues of foreign policy and the economy, we turn to world-renowned political dissident, linguist, author, and mit professor noam chomsky. in a recent speech, professor chomsky examined topics largely ignored or glossed over during the campaign -- from china to the arab spring, to global warming and the nuclear threat posed by israel versus iran. he spoke last month at the university of massachusetts in amherst, at any event sponsored by the center for popular economics. his talk was entitled, "who owns the world?" >> when i was thinking about these remarks, i had two topics in mind. i could not decide between them. pretty obvious ones. one topic is, what are the most important issues that we face? the second topic is, what issues are not being treated seriously or at all in the quadrennial frenzy now under way called in election? but i realize that there is no problem. it is not a hard choice. they are the same topic. there are reasons for it, which are very significant in and of themselves. i would like to return to that in a momen
is the unraveling obama foreign policy. >> october 16th. at the second presidential debate, romney and obama face off. they highlight the charges and counter charges over whether president obama took the benghazi attack and by implication the terror threat seriously enough. >> as soon as we found out benghazi consulate was overrun. i was on the funny. >> the president the day after flies to a political fund-raiser. >> day after the attack, governor, i stood in the rose garden and i told the american people that this was an act of terror and the suggestion that anybody in my team would play politics or mislead when we have lost four of our own is offensive. >> mr. president, 14 days he called it an act of terror. >> six days later. >> the first question, it concerns libya. >> october 22nd, the final presidential debate. >> governor rom you said this is an example of an american policy in the middle east that sun raveling. >> if anyone was hoping to see another done any brook over benghazi they would be disappointed. >> we see in libya, an attack by terrorists. >> whatever the reasons, both candida
to be pivoting so far that he's presenting himself as obama 2008. that's what we heard in the foreign policy debate. and what was striking for me today is how often he referred to positively to the obama of 2008, and how he tried to sort of seize the mantle that obama claimed in 2008. he used the word "change" so many times. that wasn't an accident. he talked talked about how obama promised to be bipartisan. he wasn't. romney would do that. what this really shows me is that romney is trying so hard to be a sheep's in wool's clothing saying don't believe it. i'm going to be the moderate pragmatic guy. >> eliot: when you look at what he says it is the same 'ol stuff. and this is the same litany of policies that led us over the precipice in 2008. is that a fair and accurate critique? >> sure, romney is surely the greater evil here on every count, the foreign policy. he'll bring the neo-conservatives back. in policies, he's not even interested in the mild dodd-frank. the reason why he's able to get away with it, it seems to me that he he's been polling and not only did he denounce george w. bush
remarks on foreign policy, particularly the challenges facing the new egyptian government in the foreign policy and region security realm, but i can set the concept of talking a little bit about domestic policy. and here, let me just start off by what seems to be a paradoxical situation, when assessing egypt's domestic landscape. because i'm the one hand, on the level of politics we have truly momentous change in egypt. however, on the level of policy, i would argue that we have much more continuity than change. on the level of politics, the election of president mohamed morsi was truly a landmark event in egypt's political history. he was the first civilian elected to the office of the presidency in egypt. he is also the first islamist to be elected as head of state in any arab country in free and fair elections. and that the islamist movement in question of course is the most impressive by far, the largest and most well-established islamist movement in the world of political islam. so truly momentous change on the level of politics. however, i would argue on the level of policy, we hav
." >> this is on foreign policy. the american ambassador to libya was recently killed. syria has defended -- descended into civil war. united states sends hundreds of billions of dollars in federal aid to countries around the world democracies and dictators. what should be the basic guiding principles of american foreign policies? >> fundamentally, i would have to say that freedom is something we need to encourage across the world. that me talk about christopher's stevens and what happened. his death along with three others is a tragedy, and that has been in a lot of people's thoughts and prayers. we need to get to the bottom of that, and i'm not here to speculate on who did what, but we need to find out and the american people need to know. i hope it will be transparent and can be clear so, two things will come out of it. people need to be held accountable, but also we can learn from that, so in the future if we have diplomats abroad we can ensure we are protecting them. as it relates to other countries, and there is turmoil in the middle east, from my perspective, that is one thing that we have don
that is not a serious discussion -- foreign policy, is foreign policy an issue at all in this election? >> i don't think it has been. i think president obama wants foreign policy to be a slogan. i got bin laden, let's move on. and really does not want to drill into the various areas around the world. and governor romney clearly from the other night does not want foreign policy to be much of an issue. he had plenty of opportunity to go after obama and chose not to do so. he chose to rise above begala -- above at all and can indicate that he can do this, that he has the knowledge and the demeanor to be able to be commander-in- chief. i think governor romney want this to be about the economy. every chance he got in the debate he brought it back to the economy. he brought it back to president obama's record. president obama is looking at the mess around the world and does not want to talk about that. he wants to talk about getting bin laden. as a result, a foreign-policy has taken a back seat. can the president have an impact on the fiscal situation? yes, but he is the sole player, by and large, on national
and what we can do for our foreign policy and. we are way ahead of everyone, including china. we have the best universities. we have entrepreneurialism spirits. we have a political system. i will take us over china and others. we're all gonna be thinking about the polarization next tuesday. we have the trifecta of stimulating the sluggish growth, getting on top of our debt problems, and investing in our future of the same time. i think we can do it. if we can, there is no reason to talk about american decline. >> i want the students, friends, faculty, please start thinking about questions. linocut the microphone. i do not know how many we will take because of time constraints. i want to ask our guests one other question about the future. in many ways, every administration is tested not by the things that they plan to do, but to the things that happened that they did not expect. the surprises. i guess the question for all of you looking to the future is what do you think will be the surprise for the next administration in asia? we will start with chris and work our way back. >> the qui
night, governor romney agreed with the president. but this is a different set of foreign policy views that he had earlier in the campaign. >> and george, that had been an argument that the obama people had kind of shied away from earlier in the campaign. >> well, that's right. right now, that charge is really an accusation that romney can live with. which is don't believe him, as andrew said, because you might like him. i think people say, look, our last impression of him, this is your closing argument, that this is someone that we can live with. i think the obama attack is buttressing the attack. >> agree? >> i don't agree. if you're paying attention to the policy, it has to worry you that he has bunch of stated policies in his platform, if you start unpacking them, there aren't any details and what he's saying now is totally different than what he is saying now. >> don't people normally state that. >> i don't think he flipped to a policy. i think he's basically just, he's got a thing in writing that my policy is "a." you say "a" is my policy, but it's not. >> but the problem is oba
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